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	<title>Comments on: T-Mobile Support Session</title>
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	<description>Technology and Geek Stuff by Eric Burke</description>
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		<title>By: Brad Hogenmiller</title>
		<link>http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2010/01/06/tmobile/comment-page-1/#comment-51113</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Hogenmiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what I want to know. Remember like 8-10 years ago when we only had to sign 1 year contracts to get the phone discounts? I remember moving between the first Windows Mobile handsets available stateside without ever having to deal with this nonsense. The MPX200, MPX220, SMT5600... I don&#039;t remember paying full price for any of these. I&#039;d love if they were honest enough to say whether their costs went up comparatively or if they just got tired of people like us upgrading all the time. I&#039;m betting it&#039;s as much column B as it is column A.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what I want to know. Remember like 8-10 years ago when we only had to sign 1 year contracts to get the phone discounts? I remember moving between the first Windows Mobile handsets available stateside without ever having to deal with this nonsense. The MPX200, MPX220, SMT5600&#8230; I don&#8217;t remember paying full price for any of these. I&#8217;d love if they were honest enough to say whether their costs went up comparatively or if they just got tired of people like us upgrading all the time. I&#8217;m betting it&#8217;s as much column B as it is column A.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bailey</title>
		<link>http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2010/01/06/tmobile/comment-page-1/#comment-50721</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T-mobile prorates the ETF:

http://www.t-mobile.com/company/website/termsconditions.aspx?WT.z_unav=ftr__TC

&quot;AFTER 06/28/08, THE EARLY TERMINATION FEE IS: $200 IF YOU TERMINATE WITH MORE THAN 180 DAYS REMAINING ON YOUR TERM; $100 IF YOU TERMINATE WITH 91 TO 180 DAYS REMAINING ON YOUR TERM; $50 IF YOU TERMINATE WITH 31 TO 91 DAYS REMAINING ON YOUR TERM; AND THE LESSER OF $50 OR YOUR MONTHLY RECURRING CHARGES (including any applicable taxes and fees) IF YOU TERMINATE IN THE LAST 30 DAYS OF YOUR TERM. &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T-mobile prorates the ETF:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.t-mobile.com/company/website/termsconditions.aspx?WT.z_unav=ftr__TC" rel="nofollow">http://www.t-mobile.com/company/website/termsconditions.aspx?WT.z_unav=ftr__TC</a></p>
<p>&#8220;AFTER 06/28/08, THE EARLY TERMINATION FEE IS: $200 IF YOU TERMINATE WITH MORE THAN 180 DAYS REMAINING ON YOUR TERM; $100 IF YOU TERMINATE WITH 91 TO 180 DAYS REMAINING ON YOUR TERM; $50 IF YOU TERMINATE WITH 31 TO 91 DAYS REMAINING ON YOUR TERM; AND THE LESSER OF $50 OR YOUR MONTHLY RECURRING CHARGES (including any applicable taxes and fees) IF YOU TERMINATE IN THE LAST 30 DAYS OF YOUR TERM. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2010/01/06/tmobile/comment-page-1/#comment-50689</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a similar convo over the phone, where the customer loyalty woman told me that the g1, mytouch, cliq are all just as good as the nexus one lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a similar convo over the phone, where the customer loyalty woman told me that the g1, mytouch, cliq are all just as good as the nexus one lol</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan</title>
		<link>http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2010/01/06/tmobile/comment-page-1/#comment-50654</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh, these 2-year contracts are the Fruits of The Devil. They&#039;re more complicated than the average support tech can explain.

I don&#039;t know of a single carrier worldwide that caters to the geek crowd. You know, us &quot;OMG this device is so cool I WANT WANT WANT it&quot; crowd.

You&#039;d think that they could snag some nice reputation - without massive loss - by allowing people to pay to upgrade within the first couple of months of a sweet new device; maybe via trade-in? Then turn around and resell the &quot;not yet obsolete&quot; phone (or give the used one away free with the contract), because since they&#039;re still selling it, it&#039;s got to have value.

But nah, this sort of thing requires creativity, foresight, and belief that you might actually want brand loyalty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh, these 2-year contracts are the Fruits of The Devil. They&#8217;re more complicated than the average support tech can explain.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know of a single carrier worldwide that caters to the geek crowd. You know, us &#8220;OMG this device is so cool I WANT WANT WANT it&#8221; crowd.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d think that they could snag some nice reputation &#8211; without massive loss &#8211; by allowing people to pay to upgrade within the first couple of months of a sweet new device; maybe via trade-in? Then turn around and resell the &#8220;not yet obsolete&#8221; phone (or give the used one away free with the contract), because since they&#8217;re still selling it, it&#8217;s got to have value.</p>
<p>But nah, this sort of thing requires creativity, foresight, and belief that you might actually want brand loyalty.</p>
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		<title>By: ec</title>
		<link>http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2010/01/06/tmobile/comment-page-1/#comment-50651</link>
		<dc:creator>ec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you paid a discount price for the G1 based on a contract that ends November of 2010 then it seems reasonable to have to wait until November of 2010.

If you want a particular handset and the vendor of that handset (google) won&#039;t let you get a discount price due to your account type; that is unfortunate.

At least if you change carriers you can take your phone number with you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you paid a discount price for the G1 based on a contract that ends November of 2010 then it seems reasonable to have to wait until November of 2010.</p>
<p>If you want a particular handset and the vendor of that handset (google) won&#8217;t let you get a discount price due to your account type; that is unfortunate.</p>
<p>At least if you change carriers you can take your phone number with you!</p>
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		<title>By: yd</title>
		<link>http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2010/01/06/tmobile/comment-page-1/#comment-50650</link>
		<dc:creator>yd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it sounds like you can&#039;t get the subsidized plan at all if you&#039;re on a family plan, even if there&#039;s no contract?

It sounds like the deal Google struck with T-Mobile is just as inflexible as the AT&amp;T/Apple one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it sounds like you can&#8217;t get the subsidized plan at all if you&#8217;re on a family plan, even if there&#8217;s no contract?</p>
<p>It sounds like the deal Google struck with T-Mobile is just as inflexible as the AT&amp;T/Apple one.</p>
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		<title>By: wcoenen</title>
		<link>http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2010/01/06/tmobile/comment-page-1/#comment-50649</link>
		<dc:creator>wcoenen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This conversation reminds me of a Turing test. It looks as if the operator is simply selecting pre-composed sentences rather than typing in answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This conversation reminds me of a Turing test. It looks as if the operator is simply selecting pre-composed sentences rather than typing in answers.</p>
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