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	<title>Comments on: Sun Expands Crapware Program</title>
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		<title>By: Eric Burke</title>
		<link>http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/11/12/sun-expands-crapware-program/comment-page-1/#comment-26527</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sean the real issue (for me, just my opinion) is I&#039;m tired of helping people like my Mom fix her slow Dell because it is so crapped out with toolbars, virus scanners, background &quot;helper&quot; apps, etc. Actually, she just bought a Mac because of the never ending problems. The JRE is part of the problem if it encourages newbies to install unrelated apps that bog down people&#039;s computers. I would never install such a toolbar, but the target audience for Java FX probably will, since it is selected by default.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sean the real issue (for me, just my opinion) is I&#8217;m tired of helping people like my Mom fix her slow Dell because it is so crapped out with toolbars, virus scanners, background &#8220;helper&#8221; apps, etc. Actually, she just bought a Mac because of the never ending problems. The JRE is part of the problem if it encourages newbies to install unrelated apps that bog down people&#8217;s computers. I would never install such a toolbar, but the target audience for Java FX probably will, since it is selected by default.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/11/12/sun-expands-crapware-program/comment-page-1/#comment-26516</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get over it. Java is a FREE software. Would you rather them jack up their prices to as much as the Adobe products? Be happy we get this as a free thing since this is an amazing language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get over it. Java is a FREE software. Would you rather them jack up their prices to as much as the Adobe products? Be happy we get this as a free thing since this is an amazing language.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/11/12/sun-expands-crapware-program/comment-page-1/#comment-25868</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The worse about it is that this JRE is &quot;the consumer JRE&quot;. The one suppose to be &quot;as good as flash plugin install&quot;.

They did all the amazing technical work (and there was a lot to do on Java Plugin) to make it happen, and then... They crash it all with an MSN toolbar!
Amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worse about it is that this JRE is &#8220;the consumer JRE&#8221;. The one suppose to be &#8220;as good as flash plugin install&#8221;.</p>
<p>They did all the amazing technical work (and there was a lot to do on Java Plugin) to make it happen, and then&#8230; They crash it all with an MSN toolbar!<br />
Amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: Randall</title>
		<link>http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/11/12/sun-expands-crapware-program/comment-page-1/#comment-25835</link>
		<dc:creator>Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this point, Sun will do anything for revenue.  Glad I don&#039;t use Internet Explorer.

Mike, bloggers are completely responsible for the collapse of Sun&#039;s business?  Seriously? You may consider it &quot;kicking them in the teeth when they&#039;re down&quot;, but Sun&#039;s put themselves in this position by not evolving their business to reflect today&#039;s technology reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point, Sun will do anything for revenue.  Glad I don&#8217;t use Internet Explorer.</p>
<p>Mike, bloggers are completely responsible for the collapse of Sun&#8217;s business?  Seriously? You may consider it &#8220;kicking them in the teeth when they&#8217;re down&#8221;, but Sun&#8217;s put themselves in this position by not evolving their business to reflect today&#8217;s technology reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Mario Aquino</title>
		<link>http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/11/12/sun-expands-crapware-program/comment-page-1/#comment-25834</link>
		<dc:creator>Mario Aquino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, for one, welcome our new Microsoft Live Powered Search-Powered Toolbar overlords. I&#039;d like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, for one, welcome our new Microsoft Live Powered Search-Powered Toolbar overlords. I&#8217;d like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/11/12/sun-expands-crapware-program/comment-page-1/#comment-25833</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s amazing how some people who supposedly built their carrier on Sun&#039;s hard work will not hesitate one moment to kick them in the teeth when they are down. You know something, you guys deserve a world dominated by the likes of Oracle, and such. I would really like to hear your wise guys remarks when that happens. Because thanks to you, and people like you we are not too far off.</description>
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