Comments on: Number of Methods in the String Class http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/03/13/number-of-methods-in-the-string-class/ Technology and Geek Stuff by Eric Burke Thu, 04 Nov 2010 22:37:00 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: she http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/03/13/number-of-methods-in-the-string-class/comment-page-1/#comment-7802 she Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:18:56 +0000 http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/03/13/number-of-methods-in-the-string-class/#comment-7802 I think this bar does not say much about a language especially not while not counting the overall number of classes and their relationship. Last but not least I also dont think its good to compared Java to Python/ruby at all, simply because both python and ruby are in a different niche. I think this bar does not say much about a language especially not while not counting the overall number of classes and their relationship. Last but not least I also dont think its good to compared Java to Python/ruby at all, simply because both python and ruby are in a different niche.

]]> By: Woodie http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/03/13/number-of-methods-in-the-string-class/comment-page-1/#comment-7644 Woodie Thu, 20 Mar 2008 06:40:28 +0000 http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/03/13/number-of-methods-in-the-string-class/#comment-7644 Yes, Ruby has str.size, which is an alias to str.length, while Python seems to require len(str), and your chart seems to indicate that fewer methods is better. If you're lucky, that chart will be tattooed to your forehead... in hell. Yes, Ruby has str.size, which is an alias to str.length,
while Python seems to require len(str), and your chart
seems to indicate that fewer methods is better.

If you’re lucky, that chart will be tattooed to your forehead… in hell.

]]> By: Bashar http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/03/13/number-of-methods-in-the-string-class/comment-page-1/#comment-7515 Bashar Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:43:37 +0000 http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/03/13/number-of-methods-in-the-string-class/#comment-7515 LOL. Yeah, but that large number makes Ruby damn nice for lazy programmers :) I just came by your blog today. Pretty nice. Thanks. Just rework the captcha ;/ LOL. Yeah, but that large number makes Ruby damn nice for lazy programmers :)

I just came by your blog today. Pretty nice. Thanks. Just rework the captcha ;/

]]> By: ste http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/03/13/number-of-methods-in-the-string-class/comment-page-1/#comment-7495 ste Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:31:52 +0000 http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/03/13/number-of-methods-in-the-string-class/#comment-7495 From http://www.ruby-doc.org/core/classes/String.html#M000861 class String In: string.c lib/jcode.rb lib/mkmf.rb lib/scanf.rb lib/yaml/rubytypes.rb ext/nkf/lib/kconv.rb so the 119 figure includes all the methods defined by those 6 modules listed after string.c # ruby -v ruby 1.8.6 (2007-09-24 patchlevel 111) [universal-darwin9.0] # irb -f String.instance_methods(false).reject { |m| m =~ /!$/ }.size => 64 actually 62, not counting the aliases From http://www.ruby-doc.org/core/classes/String.html#M000861

class String
In:
string.c
lib/jcode.rb
lib/mkmf.rb
lib/scanf.rb
lib/yaml/rubytypes.rb
ext/nkf/lib/kconv.rb

so the 119 figure includes all the methods defined by those 6 modules listed after string.c

# ruby -v
ruby 1.8.6 (2007-09-24 patchlevel 111) [universal-darwin9.0]

# irb -f
String.instance_methods(false).reject { |m| m =~ /!$/ }.size
=> 64

actually 62, not counting the aliases

]]> By: Alan http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/03/13/number-of-methods-in-the-string-class/comment-page-1/#comment-7429 Alan Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:53:17 +0000 http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/03/13/number-of-methods-in-the-string-class/#comment-7429 s = String.methods(1).grep(/\w/) - String.methods(1).grep(/^(instance|included|private|public|protected|singleton|class|const|__)/); puts s.length => 37 Maybe you should re-evaluate your hoakie chart ... even with my shitty regex && method listing. @ Patrick Hurley, try the easy way: String.methods(1).length => 77 s = String.methods(1).grep(/\w/) – String.methods(1).grep(/^(instance|included|private|public|protected|singleton|class|const|__)/); puts s.length => 37

Maybe you should re-evaluate your hoakie chart … even with my shitty regex && method listing.

@ Patrick Hurley, try the easy way:
String.methods(1).length => 77

]]> By: Marco Qualizza http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/03/13/number-of-methods-in-the-string-class/comment-page-1/#comment-7423 Marco Qualizza Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:32:35 +0000 http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/03/13/number-of-methods-in-the-string-class/#comment-7423 To bring another (unnamed) language into it... String methodDictionary size 54 On the other hand... Object allSubclasses size 5403 Just saying... To bring another (unnamed) language into it…

String methodDictionary size
54

On the other hand…
Object allSubclasses size
5403

Just saying…

]]> By: Wayne Keenan http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/03/13/number-of-methods-in-the-string-class/comment-page-1/#comment-7421 Wayne Keenan Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:57:53 +0000 http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/03/13/number-of-methods-in-the-string-class/#comment-7421 how about in the 'shell' , well almost, /I/ didn't have to write any Java to do it :) javap java.lang.String | grep public | wc -l 79 javap java.lang.String | grep -v 'public' | wc -l 8 javap java.lang.String | grep -v '[{}]' | wc -l 84 how about in the ’shell’ , well almost, /I/ didn’t have to write any Java to do it :)

javap java.lang.String | grep public | wc -l
79

javap java.lang.String | grep -v ‘public’ | wc -l
8

javap java.lang.String | grep -v ‘[{}]‘ | wc -l
84

]]> By: Andre Pang http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/03/13/number-of-methods-in-the-string-class/comment-page-1/#comment-7395 Andre Pang Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:47:03 +0000 http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/03/13/number-of-methods-in-the-string-class/#comment-7395 <a href="http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Reference/Foundation/Classes/NSString_Class/Reference/NSString.html" rel="nofollow">NSString</a> is one serious batteries-included string class. I count 138 methods. NSString is one serious batteries-included string class. I count 138 methods.

]]> By: Michael http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/03/13/number-of-methods-in-the-string-class/comment-page-1/#comment-7387 Michael Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:09:14 +0000 http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/03/13/number-of-methods-in-the-string-class/#comment-7387 I have a strong desire to hear crickets chirping after Mark's comment (at least until one of you with enough time on your hands goes and calculates it). ;) I have a strong desire to hear crickets chirping after Mark’s comment (at least until one of you with enough time on your hands goes and calculates it). ;)

]]> By: riffraff http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/03/13/number-of-methods-in-the-string-class/comment-page-1/#comment-7386 riffraff Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:03:17 +0000 http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/03/13/number-of-methods-in-the-string-class/#comment-7386 About the former ruby example.. public_instance_methods is your friend :) (String.new.public_methods(false) - Object.new.public_methods).size # => 77 But one should consider aliasing (ie. size and length are one single method albeit shown as two) and side-effecting behaviour (sub and sub!) and variations based on arguments(i.e 6 different behaviours of String#[], kind-of-overloading behavour) About the former ruby example.. public_instance_methods is your friend :)
(String.new.public_methods(false) – Object.new.public_methods).size # => 77

But one should consider aliasing (ie. size and length are one single method albeit shown as two) and side-effecting behaviour (sub and sub!) and variations based on arguments(i.e 6 different behaviours of String#[], kind-of-overloading behavour)

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