Comic: So Long, Chet
February 23rd, 2008
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UPDATE: I withdraw this comic. See my apology and second attempt.
In next week’s episode, James Gosling joins 37 Signals as a Rails evangelist!
This is a real XXXX in the XXXX…
UPDATE: I withdraw this comic. See my apology and second attempt.
In next week’s episode, James Gosling joins 37 Signals as a Rails evangelist!
Good for Chet. But i am pretty sure this was a calculated move from Adobe. Kill the leaders first
Hi afsina,
Adobe is not trying to kill anyone or anything. We are always looking for great engineers. Chet is a great engineer and we are really happy to have him on board.
-James
As usual it’s supereb,
It’s really bad for Swing programmers (reading “Filthy Rich Client”) who continue to believe that Flex/Flash can’t compete with Swing. Chet’s new blog (http://graphics-geek.blogspot.com/2008/02/what-hello-world.html) contains “Filthy Rich Client” in the front page.
Swing cannot survive without Chet & Romain Guy, Hope Chet will not dump “Swing”.
Yes asfina you’re right. A guy as passionate as Chet can only be attracted by more money, and since he was underpaid at Sun… Come on!!! For me it just serves as another demonstration that Sun has missed the train, and Sun engineers are in the best position to understand that. When you’re passionate about technology, you go where it’s fun and useful. Congratulations Chet! Move on guys, Flex is great.
Yes, Flex is great and expensive… Change the last and Swing is dead.
I’ll just say that Chet and I are presenting another Filthy Rich Clients talk, covering Java2D and Swing, at JavaOne this year.
Michael, the Flex sdk is free. If you need a specialized IDE, FlashDevelop is open source free, and Adobe’s own Flex Builder costs $250. What about it is expensive?
@Jetako, I just checked the prices on Adobe Flex Builder 3 Professional. The upgrade is $299, the full version is $699.
Well, i really enjoyed reading Chet’s blog. I am hoping that this will be good for him. But for a java developer, leaving a platform is not as easy as it sounds. I will read his blog to see his experiences.
Maybe i am wrong and Adobe really needed good engineers. i remember when i was really into Mozilla project back in 2002, one of the top developers (Dave Hyatt if i recall) silently hired by Apple and started to work in the heart of a rival browser when nobody expected.. At the end Mozilla prevailed. Who knows, Swing may be too.
Eric, Flex Builder 3 has not been released yet. The currently available Flex Builder 2 is $250, although it costs more if you need the Charting package, which most people do not. If you buy FB2 now, you can download the stable FB3 beta for free, and when it expires you can upgrade to the release version for $99 (Standard edition), or $499 (Professional edition).
I agree it’s a tad confusing, but despite the “Professional” moniker, the standard edition provides everything you need for enterprise development.
Acutally, Jetako, Flex 3 is available as of a few hours ago: http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/
-Alan
Hi Michael,
“Flex is great and expensive”
This is a common misconception about Flex. There are commercial products related to Flex like Flex Builder and LiveCycle Data Services but these are optional. You can build very sophisticated RIAs with the open source and free products like the open source Flex SDK and BlazeDS. I used Vim as my primary IDE for Flex for nearly 4 years until Adobe released Flex Builder for Linux. Also Flex Builder is free for students and educators.
-James
Hey, sorry about pushing the crap that is Flex on everyone. I’ve just had a really painful reverse bowel movement and we all know how disorienting that can be. My apologies.