Comments on: The ‘final’ Verdict… http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2007/11/17/the-final-verdict/ Technology and Geek Stuff by Eric Burke Thu, 04 Nov 2010 22:37:00 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Michael http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2007/11/17/the-final-verdict/comment-page-1/#comment-1680 Michael Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:28:34 +0000 http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2007/11/17/the-final-verdict/#comment-1680 Preach it, Eric. There is no good reason for a method that long. If you run into something like that and leave it that way, a nun should wack your knuckles with a ruler. ;) Preach it, Eric. There is no good reason for a method that long. If you run into something like that and leave it that way, a nun should wack your knuckles with a ruler. ;)

]]> By: Eric Burke http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2007/11/17/the-final-verdict/comment-page-1/#comment-1578 Eric Burke Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:02:20 +0000 http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2007/11/17/the-final-verdict/#comment-1578 If confronted with a method like that, I'd declare local vars final. A kitten just died, I think. I doubt that has anything to do with "financial services". That's just shitty code. If confronted with a method like that, I’d declare local vars final. A kitten just died, I think. I doubt that has anything to do with “financial services”. That’s just shitty code.

]]> By: Stephan Schmidt http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2007/11/17/the-final-verdict/comment-page-1/#comment-1569 Stephan Schmidt Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:04:06 +0000 http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2007/11/17/the-final-verdict/#comment-1569 I also find "final" too noisy. But Sun should have made all parameters final by default, as all methods in interfaces are public by default. Perhaps in Java 1.7 with a compatibility switch. I think it's never a good idea to treat params non-final. Peace -stephan -- Stephan Schmidt :: stephan@reposita.org Reposita Open Source - Monitor your software development http://www.reposita.org Blog at http://stephan.reposita.org - No signal. No noise. I also find “final” too noisy. But Sun should have made all parameters final by default, as all methods in interfaces are public by default. Perhaps in Java 1.7 with a compatibility switch. I think it’s never a good idea to treat params non-final.

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]]> By: Laird Nelson http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2007/11/17/the-final-verdict/comment-page-1/#comment-1562 Laird Nelson Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:37:28 +0000 http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2007/11/17/the-final-verdict/#comment-1562 I respect your choice, but respectfully disagree. For small projects, I do agree with you, but on the large hairy messes I tend to get airlifted into nothing beats declaring a local variable "final" when you can. Seven- and eight-thousand-line long methods (yes, methods) are not uncommon to stumble across in financial services and using the compiler to help keep you honest later on is a no-brainer in such cases. I respect your choice, but respectfully disagree. For small projects, I do agree with you, but on the large hairy messes I tend to get airlifted into nothing beats declaring a local variable “final” when you can. Seven- and eight-thousand-line long methods (yes, methods) are not uncommon to stumble across in financial services and using the compiler to help keep you honest later on is a no-brainer in such cases.

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